Future Tarot

(From the March 10 Future-Tarot chat.)

[Jen.N] With regard to writing, particularly the Kat O’Reilly novels and associated things: I wonder if I’m putting the cart before the horse and trying to rush things too much. Am I being too impatient in that area?

[Serenity Bly] *ponders* Well, it’s an interesting future card, but the others are making sense so we’ll wait and see what that one has to say later.

[Jen.N] Interesting can be good. (Last week, I thought the answer would be a resounding YES I’m being too impatient, but now I’m not so sure.)

[Serenity Bly] In the past, we see the Seven of Wands (reversed) and tied to the Four of Wands in the present. I see this as a clear sense of “if not now, when?” You’ve had the ideas and inspirations vying for your attention. They’re demanding and they won’t wait. You HAD to do this now, and there was nothing else you could have done. Those men have been at you and at you making you write their stories and they wouldn’t take no for an answer.

[Jen.N] Oh yeah. I’m writing these books (the Maguire Men series) as fast as I can get them done.

[Serenity Bly] It’s been a bit of a battle knowing which to write when, what to work on, how one story comes together apart from the others, etc.

[Jen.N] I’m already planning the next one. It’ll be the 5th.

[MoonlitKim] You are really on fire, Jen!

[Serenity Bly] In a way, part of me wonders if you need to consider the whole and make sure you haven’t got anyone’s stories mixed up with anyone else’s. That bustle and confusion could have taken a toll on the manuscripts.

[Jen.N] Kim, sometimes I feel like it. I go to bed and they keep me awake. I kind of resent the day job for keeping me from writing.

[Serenity Bly] The Sun shows that continuing fire of inspiration and creativity. Keep writing and writing. Let them guide you while you get it down on paper.

[Jen.N] I’ve actually considered that [possibility of confusion]. I have separate file folders on the computer and 3-ring notebooks for each one to minimize that happening.

[Serenity Bly] I feel like the writing process is where you’re at now, so perhaps the sense of impatience is knowing you have those “finished” books and wanting to push through to publication.

[Jen.N] Defintely!

[Serenity Bly] What I sense here is that the men need you to finish writing them and THEN consider them as a whole when you edit the series.

[Jen.N] Whoo boy.

[Serenity Bly] Yep, that sounds daunting.

[Jen.N] Which could be why they’re overlapping so much now—meaning writing one & planning the next.

[MoonlitKim] Yep, and present them as a whole too. I love your multi-century concept, but a publisher might not be able to “see” it until you can show him what you’re talking about.

[Serenity Bly] What it’s really saying is stay with this energy now, stay in the frame where you’re focusing primarily on getting it written.

[Jen.N] Yeah. Daunting describes it. The series will ultimately be about 15 books.

[Serenity Bly] Worry about what comes next after they’re written.

[Jen.N] OK. So I am being too impatient in that regard.

[Serenity Bly] The Devil in the Future is reversed, warning you against inviting outside influences in at this point. To me, it’s another indication that you might be moving too soon with finding an agent and publisher. Those external influences will want to make changes. They won’t necessarily see the greater picture and they might push you around more than you’re ready for at this point.

[Jen.N] Ah. OK. Which might also actually explain why I haven’t heard anything from anyone yet even though their published response times have come & gone.

[Serenity Bly] They’re going to want to change your concepts, to make new stories out of the ones you’ve written and you don’t want to bring that into your life.

[Jen.N] Very true.

[Serenity Bly] You’ve not, technically, finished the books yet, even the earlier ones, because when the men all come together those earlier ones will change. It’s in seeing the WHOLE picture that you’ll be able to finish putting the pieces together. You don’t want people coming in early to be stealing pieces of the puzzle before you even know what the big picture is. Does that make sense?

[Jen.N] The last book will take it full circle. During the potato famine, they’ll come to the United States. Then in the last book, which will be modern times, they’ll go back to Ireland.

[Serenity Bly] Ah, in that case it sounds very much like it makes sense.

[Jen.N] It does. I’ve made myself a bit anxious a time or two not wanting too much of it changed when it goes through the publication process.

[Serenity Bly] Try imagining if the first three got published, when you’re writing that final book you’d be STUCK to the “facts” presented in those stories, you can’t change anything then; it’s too late. By holding back and writing the entire series first, you’re free to let that final story tell its story, and then tweak the inconsistencies that might come up. You know how those darn characters sometimes like to say, “Nope, don’t want it done like that do it this way instead.”

[Jen.N] Honestly? I’ve even considered going an e-book self-pub route using Amazon for the Kindle. Don’t know that I will, but…. Very true.

[Serenity Bly] So, I think what it’s saying here is don’t push for publication on any of them yet. Get them written, stay in that energy and space, and let the ideas all come together as a whole before moving on to the next stage. Even if you published the manuscripts as is, right now, when you’ve finished the final book you may wish you could change things.

[Jen.N] I have considered giving the character in the last book the same name as the one in the first book if that wouldn’t make things too confusing. What I might consider, then, is pushing the non-Maguire books, like NAVAJO ROSE. Er… OK. That’s the only one I have right now that’s not in the series.

[Cyn] Not at all. He keeps the papers of his ancestors from Ellis Island and the one he was named after.

[Serenity Bly] Yes. I can see you pushing ahead with non-Maguires in the meantime. You might even find the Maguire men step aside to let you write another book or two off-series in the meantime.

[Jen.N] I’ll be taking a week—maybe 2—off from the day job in May to work just on writing. I can’t wait until September/October. Ack!

[Serenity Bly] But, for their series at least, they need you do do the writing first.

[Jen.N] That makes a *lot* of sense and goes along with what I’ve known in the back of my mind but have ignored..

[Serenity Bly] Of course, I can understand the frustration because you want to spend your time writing but until you’re getting an income from writing you can’t quit your day job.

[Jen.N] That’s a bit of an understatement, but I’ll get there. Thanks so much, Serenity!

[Serenity Bly] And you can’t get an income from writing unless you either publish what you’ve already got or change writing tact and therefore use your energy writing non-fiction, which is worse than the day job in the sense that after writing non-fiction all day, you have no energy left to write fiction. *hugs Jen* I’m glad I could offer some clarity on your uncertainties.

[Jen.N] “Some” clarity?

[MoonlitKim] Oh, yeah, and don’t forget, that even if you publish Navajo Rose, you have to market it and that takes you out of the writing state of mind.

[Jen.N] Yup. That’s definitely a consideration too. But, I’ll be having to do that soon anyway. DEVOTED TO CREATING will be out around the first of May.

[MoonlitKim] Woohoo! Great news, Jen!

[Cyn] Wonderful news!

[Jen.N] I’m excited! And maybe money from that can go to paying for my residency in October.  It’s a book of devotions centered around creativity.

[Serenity Bly] What advice does the Tarot have regarding my super secret project that Miss Michele knows about but no one else does.

[Miss Michelle] OH!

[Serenity Bly] Well, my mother does too, but only because I’ve worked on it while at her house. lol

[Miss Michelle] Wait, am I thinking of the same super-secret project? the one you mentioned this morning? Or whichever morning it was I did your yearly spread?

[Serenity Bly] Don’t think it came up in my 12-month. But then I was too preoccupied about the whole man factor. Oh, and THAT wasn’t super secret. Everyone knows I’m considering artificial insemination. *chuckles* Babies without men, I’m all about that.

[Miss Michelle] Damn, and here I went and drew an Empress just for you. Actually, this fits the other super-secret project, too…

[Serenity Bly] Well, you were THINKING about that when you drew so maybe it relates to AI and not SSP? lol

[Miss Michelle] It could relate to EITHER! Dammit. Okay, we have that Death card again… for EITHER to be successful… you need to let go of something. And THAT is what leads me to believe it’s SSP…

[Serenity Bly] Needs to let go of stupid anxiety. We already knew that. And again it relates to both.

[Miss Michelle] AND that your yearly spread could relate to that, too.

[Serenity Bly] I’d much rather my yearly spread relate to babies without men. That would be nice and a yearlong project with a Ten of Cups culmination. My SSP, now that I don’t want to drag on all year long.

[Miss Michelle] Yes, you need to get rid of the anxiety but, as it relates to SSP, specifically the anxiety about writing (can I say that much?) and about FINISHING a project. Esp. a big one. Then we have the Empress, showing a birth… you WILL finish.

[Serenity Bly] I’m trying to chunk down, I have SSP’s outline together but am stalling at the writing again. And you know me well enough to see the recurring issues there. I need a firm whack.

[Miss Michelle] thwap! The Three of Rods shows multiple opportunities arising from the completion of this project. This is NOT just a project, it’s the start of an empire… or a larger family if we’re going the other way.

[Serenity Bly] See, it ties beautifully with both situations. The Three being the third child. And the Three being the potential for the SSP.

[Miss Michelle] Yes… it really does. But I typically associate that three with a business opportunity card. But then the Empress… Damn. tarot’s playing games with us.

[Serenity Bly] lol It’s doing exactly what it’s meant to. Making me feel better.

[Miss Michelle] I said, “Does this reading relate to a baby or SSP?” and I got the Hanged Man. I think it’s saying, “wait and see.” In fact, I know it is because I heard it in my mind. LOL

[Serenity Bly] Hanged Man can mean both too. The fact that one is playing a hand in the other. Sacrificing and waiting now is clearing the field for then.

[Miss Michelle] Three majors, too… Whatever it is will be life-changingly significant.

[Serenity Bly] This makes it more about AI than SSP because I don’t really feel SSP is that significant. But the breakthrough involved in both would be. Thank you MM. I feel better, about both.

[Miss Michelle] SSP really could be a stepping stone to a lot of other great things is the sense I’m getting.

[Serenity Bly] thinks my anxiety yesterday and today is probably related to not eating. I’ve been very naughty. Deliberately ignoring hunger until it passes instead of choosing to eat healthy meals at regular times. And I know having an empty stomach makes my anxiety worse.

(From the March 10 Future-Tarot chat.)

[Cyn] The man can be frustrating. Should I stay or should I go in this relationship?

[Serenity Bly] *blinks* Well THAT is interesting. We’ll come back to interesting later.

[Cyn] A frustrating man, imagine that!

[Serenity Bly] In the past, we see the Five of Swords. You’ve had your pick of men. You had a hard time choosing this one and that is a large part of your uncertainty now. You’re still not sure you make the right choice. That makes me suspect your OTHER choices are still on the horizon, as if you’ve got one foot not quite into this relationship because you’re leaving yourself room to change your mind. The Page of Wands (reversed) in the present tells me that you’ve got to be all in or all out. The cards are all Minor Arcana, making the choice entirely up to you. You’re in command of your destiny and there is no influence outside of yourself making or breaking this deal, but your lack of commitment is possibly what makes him so frustrating. If he senses that you’ve got a foot half-way out the door, he’ll act out, if that makes sense. He’s testing your commitment, because he wants you to be sure, to be all there and 100% on his side and he won’t settle for less.

[Cyn] But he wants so much so soon! Seriously, can’t being exclusive be enough right now? Really though, you’re right on so far.

[Serenity Bly] The Future shows this clearly. Either you go all in, give up those other choices, settle with the choice you made, and MAKE it work. (The Ten of Pentacles (reversed) shows it can work but you’ll have to work together to make it work.) OR if you don’t make a choice to be all in, it’ll slowly come to an end. (The Death card (reversed) shows a slow demise of the relationship being pulled apart at the seams.) It sounds like he’s tossed an ultimatum at your feet and the decision is yours to make. Can you love this man? Can you picture spending the rest of your life with him? Would you feel a great sense of devastation if this relationship ended? The Tarot says it can work if you choose to work it, but the freedom of that choice is yours to make.

[Cyn] See where I’m stuck? It’s been only about 2 months, so much intensity so soon.

[Serenity Bly] I’m going to come back to the Page of Wands because it steers ME on a personal sense. You see, the Page of Wands is my “go for it” card. It’s my throw caution to the wind, stuff the risks, go with it, and make it happen. So, if that were MY reading, it would be saying to jump in feet first and don’t look back, but if you’re not comfortable with the idea, that could be the sign from the universe saying this choice isn’t right for you. and you need to listen to your gut on that.

[Cyn] I’m reserved because it seems too good to be true as well. He has money, he’s grounded, and so on

[MoonlitKim] *nods* A lot of my relationships were “all in” right away. If that’s what he’s expecting, it may bother him that you haven’t leapt yet. Perhaps once you do, he may get more comfortable and tone down the intensity.

[Serenity Bly] If you’re holding back out of fear, then the message says, “Don’t hold back.” It’s not too good to be true, Cyn. If you commit to this, there is marriage, babies, family, a stable home, and a secure and happy life over the horizon. It’s not going to be easy, but it will be a very good situation for you. You don’t need to be afraid of that choice, assuming it’s the fear of that holding you back. If you’re held back because you’re not in love with him, then it’s different again. Yes, you could fake it, and make it work. Avariciously, you could “marry him for the money” and you’ll have a fairly good life, but you deserve better than that. You deserve to be with someone you can love. If it’s not this man, let him go and choose another.

[Cyn] That’s not me at all.  I’d hate that person- I pick up the tabs not to be that person. So I guess I need to evaluate where my feelings really are for him.  Lots to think about here.

[Jen.N] But on the other hand, letting him pick up the tabs sometimes doesn’t make you that person either.

[Serenity Bly] Just because he is a good man and has money doesn’t make him someone you can’t be with and it doesn’t make him too good to be true. They DO exist. You need to find your heart in this question. Seek that within yourself, Cyn, and listen to those feelings, but don’t wait too long because he really does need to know you’re 100% into this.

[Serenity Bly] The relationship will end if you don’t make a choice. Not immediately. It’ll take time, but that is where it’s landing here. So, seek within, decide how you truly feel, even if it means considering your other options in your head, and then either get in or get out. Know that neither choice is wrong, Cyn. Whichever you choose, you WILL eventually be in that Ten of Pentacles. Either way, it’ll take some work to get there.

[Cyn] I’ll do that, Serenity.  I suppose I’m just being pessimistic here, which is uncharacteristic.

[Serenity Bly] It can be very hard to accept when good things do happen.

What do you do when a friend in trouble asks for advice? What do you do if you read Tarot and your troubled friend asks for a reading? Giving bad news in a Tarot reading is always painful but when that bad news is for a friend it can be truly heart-breaking, it can even damage friendships. But when a friend needs help, is there really a way we can say no?

Deb’s friend needs help and has asked Deb to give her a Tarot reading. Like all of us, Deb isn’t keen to give bad news. Miss Michele and I have our own thoughts on the matter but in this case, the Tarot had it’s own advice to give.

[Miss Michele] Deb first I believe?

[Tilanthis] Yes. I’ll wait my turn.

[Amanda] Yes, go Deb.

[Serenity Bly] What’s up Deb?

[Tilanthis] Can I add my interpretations too?

[Deb] Okay, I’ve been asked to do a Tarot reading for someone tomorrow, and I’m not sure she is gonna be ready for the response. She is in a high-stress situation, and has been dreaming of suicide. I’ve been trying to help her get on her feet, but it’s a lot worse than I had thought at first.

[Amanda] Oh dear!

[Miss Michele] Wow… I’d not do it. Just personally, and based on what you’ve told us so far about this particular situation.

[Deb] She asked me to do a reading for her today, but I begged off until tomorrow.

[Miss Michele] At Future-Tarot we make it clear that Serenity and I are not psychologists, life coaches, therapists, or anything of the sort. You are a better friend than I.

[Serenity Bly] Sometimes, when a situation is out of our depth, it is better to refer the querant to a professional.

[Deb] I’m gonna have to do it sooner or later, and this ties in to my stuff about not doing readings that are will upset people.

[Amanda] You know, in moments of crisis sometimes a reading can be a great way to get some perspective. It’s a cry for help… which means she may not be the suicidal type.

[Deb] Yes, I know. I have already told her what needs to be done to get herself out. She needs to disengage.

[Serenity Bly] I recommend doing a PRE-reading, draw cards before she is there. Prepare in advance for the sort of reading she’ll be getting so that you can temper the reading based on what you already know about her situation. But, I would actually say, GET SOMEONE ELSE to do the reading. Because you already know this person, you have an emotional attachment to the outcome and the result. She won’t be as receptive to your reading as she would be to a strangers and is more likely to be hurt by the home truths that may come up.

[Deb] She is determined that I do it. I’m less worried about the emotional attachment

[Miss Michele] If you’ve already been “counseling” her as a friend to a degree, then it’s good to do the reading. You can back up what you’ve been saying. Both in YOUR mind, that confirmation, plus sometimes hearing it from the cards makes a difference.

[Deb] She’s been listening to me, as best she can but I know that until a person is ready, they won’t jump. I told her already to discuss some of this with our WW leader, since he’s really good at getting people to reframe things.

[Serenity Bly] If you do go ahead with doing the reading yourself, draw cards before she is there so you know in advance if any ‘bad’ news is likely to come up. It’ll give you time to seek deeper into the situation for the good that goes with the bad. And remember, there ALWAYS is some. Every bad situation has a purpose, a reason, an upside. It still sucks but the important thing is to shine the light down the tunnel.

[Deb] I know that — I’m sure this has been presented to me as an opportunity to overcome some of my stuff about doing readings that aren’t happy.

[Serenity Bly] But as Artgra mentioned, she most likely isn’t suicidal. Because those who truly are don’t ask for help.

[Deb] True. I’m less worried about her being suicidal than about her sabotaging herself. Her brother is a real piece of work. He makes my sister look like an amateur.

[Amanda] I think you should do the reading. Like i said earlier, maybe it’ll sink in if conveyed through a ‘third party’ so to speak.

[Serenity Bly] And there would be several (some theorize 9 specific and separate) issues that create the trigger for suicide. Basically, in the mind of someone who will go to that extreme life seriously sucks and there are no other options. It sounds like this woman is still looking for options.

[Deb] Yes, she is, but she still wants a magic fix, and those are few and far between.

[Miss Michele] They exist? Where can I order my fairy dust?

[Serenity Bly] I think you’ll find, the worst that can happen from your reading is absolutely nothing.

[Deb] I refuse to rule them out completely, though – know too many people whose lives changed in a flash.

[Miss Michele] And that may very well BE the worst thing–to do nothing–for this woman.

[Serenity Bly] It’s worth doing the reading because it’ll sink in on some level. Even if she’s not really receptive to the idea of “helping herself”.

[Miss Michele] You know, in a lot of ways, the universe gives us magic when we’re open to it.

[Deb] I’m still sure this has come up because this is my stumbling block when doing readings.

[Tilanthis] That is a powerful statement Miss Michele

[Deb] Any advice from the cards, ladies?

[Miss Michele] Oh! You want a reading, too??? lol Just kidding!

Deb thwaps Miss Michele

Miss Michele giggles.

[Miss Michele] ROFLMAO! (at the cards this time)

[Deb] Oh?

[Miss Michele] Let go of your blocks, they say. (in the form of the Death card.)

[Deb] Gee, how did I know that would come up in a reading for me.

[Serenity Bly] Deb, you might want to read our new Privacy Policy and Terms of Service. It might help empower you to do ANY reading.

[Miss Michele] Followed by Four of Swords, indicating… this card has meant so many things for me over the past few days… I’m not sure how to interpret it anymore. I see this as you’re weighing your options… meditate on it. The card is literally a “rest.”

[Serenity Bly] I suspect the Four of Swords is echoing my earlier advice, to take the time to pre-prepare before the reading. It talks about introspection, pausing, gathering your resources.

[Miss Michele] YES!! The good news is that this WILL be ‘popping the cherry’ so to speak on difficult readings. It will work. And sorry, couldn’t think of a less crude way to phrase that right now.

[Serenity Bly] *chuckles* That’s a terrible turn of phrase. How about ‘turning point’, ‘catalyst’, ‘paradigm shift’?

[Tilanthis] Quite matter of factually… it is the hold the reins, gather your forces and focus your mind and intent.

[Deb] That’s okay. So what’s the last card?

[Miss Michele] The Knight of Wands – Knights are messengers and harbingers of change. You will be FREE, Free as the wind, which is the element associated with wands, to do all manner of readings in the future. BUT you need to let go.

[Deb] That is good to know.

[Serenity Bly] I love the Knight of Wands. It’s the “go for it” card! The advice here seems to be to put aside your personal reservations, face the situation from a subjective perspective, and do the reading as you would if you were expecting good news not bad. Who knows, maybe there is good news ahead for her. Good luck Deb and we’ll look forward to hearing how it goes.

It was great to see so many wonderful people join us for Tarot Chat again. In this session Simone asked about a challenging friend who, after betraying her in the past, was seeking to rekindle their friendship. Sometimes, when it comes to our relationships with others we have to let time heal old wounds. While Simone needed to understand her friend’s motivations the wisdom the cards really wanted to offer was to let it go and let the hands of time do the hard work.

But before we begin with Simone’s reading, Teresa wanted to share a beautiful gift she received over Christmas. Have you ever tried Tarot Journaling? Read on to find out more.

[Teresa] I had something I wanted to share when it’s convenient.

[Serenity Bly] Oh, Teresa has something to SHARE!

[Teresa] My husband got me a book for Christmas: Tarot Journaling: Using the Celtic Cross to Unveil Your Hidden Story by Corrine Kenner on journaling with the Tarot.

[Jen_N] Oh how neat!

[Simone] That sounds awesome!

[Teresa] So I’ve been reading it and setting up a binder for journaling, getting ready to dig back into the Tarot.

[Simone] That sounds exciting!

[Teresa] I just wanted to share it with people, it’s pretty cool so far.

[MoonlitKim] Journaling! Woo! Love it.

[Serenity Bly] Journaling with Tarot? Sounds very interesting. If you ever wanted to blog your Tarot Journal give me a shout, Teresa. We’d love to host you on Future-Tarot.

[Teresa] Oh? I might just do that.

[Serenity Bly] Ok, did Simone get pushed forward for this next reading?

[MoonlitKim] I think so. Go for Simone!

[Serenity Bly] What would you like to ask Simone?

[Simone] Ok, I had a family member… and she contacted me after smearing me online in a really public, really bad way. Can the cards or your empathic zing tell me what the hell her family REALLY wanted from me and my family? It’s eating away at me. Even three years after smearing me or maybe only two years.

[Serenity Bly] We’ll see. I’m not sure I’m good enough to give you motive but who knows. We can at least dig for a bit of piece of mind.

[Simone] I trust you and the cards – you’ll tell me what cards you pull, yes?

[Serenity Bly] lol I said, “Not sure I’m good enough to give you motive”… And then the cards shout “Narcissism.” That sounds like motive to me.   

[Simone] Narcissism? I know what that means….the word and the psychological condition…

[Serenity Bly] Ok, lets break it down with the actual cards. In the past the Page of Cups has her totally self-centered and admiring all the wonder that is She. She’s very much in love with her own reflection and has blinded herself to the value of others or the pursuit of a greater divine purpose.

[Miss Michelle] Yes, the Page of Cups is ALL about narcissism.

[Simone] That makes sense because she was tearing me down because she felt untouchable. Is she her own greater divine purpose?

[Serenity Bly] In the present we have the Six of Cups (reversed) which, today, seems to point to her looking to blame someone else for her personal tragedies. It’s a strange twist to this card, I don’t normally see it that way.

[MoonlitKim] Funny, I had never noticed narcissism, guess I thought the fish was in the way of the reflection.

[Miss Michelle] Also, it tells me she could be looking at the past in a different way than Simone sees it. Because the Six of Cups is “halcyon days of old” — this person is seeing things “reversed” from reality…

[Simone] Miss Michelle I’m sure she sees it differently. You have to in order to justify being such a lowlife c-word.

[Serenity Bly] It also points to a sense of jealousy and resentment. She was looking back on lost opportunities and a happier past. Or more specifically “YOU” reminded her of what she’s lost.

[Miss Michelle] it seems to me like she’s contacting you to… like, get back what she feels she lost from you…

[Serenity Bly] In the future we see DEATH! *plays dramatic music*

[Simone] ! Was she going to change?

[Miss Michelle] Oooh… That puts a very new angle on it…

[Serenity Bly] I’m sorry, but I don’t think it means she’s about to die a horrible death, Simone. *winks*

[Simone] lol Oh, I know that. I don’t want her to die. I know her life is revenge enough.

[Serenity Bly] And I don’t think it’s really an indication of her changing but of your relationship with her changing or ending.

[Miss Michelle] It seems, from that, that in her own twisted mind, she really IS looking to put it all behind her… To find a way to “let go” of it. And she’s USING you for that.

[MoonlitKim] Hmm… to at least let you know that her perspective has changed, that now she understands what life with kids is about?

[Serenity Bly] You’re a catalyst for change within her and you’re creating a new vision and purpose for her.

[Miss Michelle] It’s like… in Alcoholics Anonymous, people going through the program are asked to “make amends” to those they hurt. But in seeking forgiveness, it may help the alcoholic but typically only hurts those they confront by pulling up old wounds.

[Serenity Bly] The advice I get from this is to “be a good example”. Lead the way to her enlightenment by showing her the kind of person she could be. Lead by example.

[Miss Michelle] Once again, she’s using you for her gain… but doesn’t even REALIZE it.

[Simone] Should I help her? It would be awful. I hate not helping.

[Serenity Bly] Don’t help her, she’s not open to help, yet.

[Miss Michelle] Hmm… Serenity’s saying yes… but not in an active way.

[Simone] She’s a cousin-in-law and even when we were friends she was the “I’ll be over at 7″ then no call no show.

[Miss Michelle] Lead by example.

[Serenity Bly] Remember, Death is the FUTURE. All you can do is lead by example and let her wallow in her six of cups.

[Miss Michelle] I almost see that the Death card, though, is telling Simone it’s okay to let go of this whole thing.

[Simone] Like I’m not a horrible person for not helping her?

[Miss Michelle] I don’t think so!

[Simone] Is there a “Simone’s a decent human being” card lmao

[Serenity Bly] Go about your own business, live your own life, and leave her on the sidelines. She will change, but you can’t force it and she’s not open to your opinions yet.

[Simone] But if we’re not talking how will I know she’s changed?

[Miss Michelle] I think she WANTS to be changed, which is why she contacted you.

[Serenity Bly] You don’t have to know Simone.

[Simone] Okay.

[MoonlitKim] Basically, it’s her problem, not yours, and when she’s willing to change, then perhaps you can be a more active helper.

[Serenity Bly] Exactly Kim. The Death card says she will, but it doesn’t say you have to be around for it, Simone.

[otherdeb] Simone, you can’t help or fix everyone.

[Simone] Watch me try Deb, watch me try. haha

[Miss Michelle] The Universe has a way of letting us know these things if we need to.

[Simone] This is the first time in my life I said no to someone asking for my friendship. It’s killing me.

[Miss Michelle] You’ll hear it from a family member–or whatever.

[MoonlitKim] Good point Deb! I so get sucked into helping everyone in the world! Which doesn’t work out well for me.

[Serenity Bly] You wanted her motivation, it’s there, self-gratification and resentment. But the action you take on it is entirely up to you. Sometimes you just have to choose not to allow negative influences into your circle.

[Jen_N] Simone, I’ve tried. It wasn’t worth the stress.

[otherdeb] Simone, I suffer from the same thing — ask Miss Michele

[Simone] Awesome. thank you SO much Serenity. I’ll sleep better tonight than I have in two weeks

[Miss Michelle] I think every one of us here does, Deb.

[Simone] I don’t doubt it. You’re all really nice people. Nice people get screwed a lot.

[otherdeb] Mostly because we let ourselves.

[Miss Michelle] That should be on a bumper sticker.   

[Serenity Bly] Simone, I don’t think I ever told you about my ex-husbands family. They sent me hate mail and threats when he and I first started dating. So, I just ignored them, got on with living my life, and pretended they didn’t exist. Years later they came to me, they wanted to get to know me and obviously the kids too. Now the relationship I have with them is better than my ex-husbands relationship with his own family.

[Simone] Shut UP! Really??? That’s amazing!

[Miss Michelle] See? There’s hope!

[Serenity Bly] Relationships mend, and in the moment, right now, you don’t have to have an active role in mending it. Let time play its hand.

[Simone] Awesome. Thanks again. It’s good to know!!!

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~Transcript from 2010-01-14