Future Tarot

From Future-Tarot Chat on March 10:

[Lily] Here’s my question about my relationship with a man. We both have feelings, but it is something what I don’t get from him, his approach toward me, so how does he see me and our relationship and possible future with him?

[Serenity Bly] Lily, I get the impression I’m picking up on HIS energy, not yours so this reading may be more about what’s going on in his head. In the past I feel like he’s been very focused on work. It makes me think you two might work together and that you met at work. He’s had to work his way up from the ground, but he’s developed a very strong sense of himself. That’s shown with the Two of Pentacles. In the present, the King of Pentacles shows that he’s still very much focused on developing his career. He’s almost blind to other areas of his life and to people in a sense outside of that sphere. He’s the ultimate “All Business”. It’s entirely possible he sees you more as a function of doing business than as a woman.

[Lily] Yes, he is hard working.

[Serenity Bly] The Five of Swords (reversed) in the future shows other choices, and this one is for you. His focus isn’t on the potential of relationships and might not be for a very long time. In the meantime, consider your other choices, or develop your choices by actively looking outside of this particular man for potential relationships. There isn’t a sense of “never” with this particular man, but the Tarot advises not to wait around for him to be ready. Seek out your options, explore elsewhere, and see how things develop.

[Lily] Interesting.

[Serenity Bly] I hope that helps, Lily.

[Lily] Thank you, Serenity.

From Future-Tarot Chat on March 10:

[Katrinia] My question (I think) is this: Last week was full of changes for me. I had to let go of a lot of personal/family belongings and heard the words, “Maybe it’s time to move on.” Is it time to move on and make changes in my personal/family life?

[Serenity Bly] *ponders* Interesting. I’m suddenly wishing Miss Michele were around.

[Katrinia] Go figure I have to be difficult.

[Serenity Bly] In the past, we see the Two of Pentacles (reversed). It shows that your life in general has been almost a chore. Chore is the wrong word, more like apprenticeship.

[Katrinia] Chore fits too.

[Serenity Bly] It’s like you’ve had a hard road learning how to just live, to live a “normal” life. Life itself was hard work. The Seven of Pentacles (reversed) shows that you’ve come to terms with the challenges life has given you and you’ve reached a point where you have a sense of growing security.

[Katrinia] If I made a book of my life, I would be richer and more popular than that guy who wrote “A Child Called It” and not only due to the fact that I can write better than he can.

[Serenity Bly] Now others are coming to you for guidance and leadership. They’re bringing their problems to you. *chuckles* Ironic that you say “a book” because I get a sense of “being able to help others with your story.

[Katrinia] Wow.

[Serenity Bly] But that’s not so much in this reading. The third card shows more to do with existing relationships. I’d almost ask if you’re engaged or likely to be about to be. But I don’t like letting the cards be too literal.

[Katrinia] I’m married.

[Serenity Bly] The Nine of Cups in the future shows a definite harmonious partnership. A union of equals that has insight and depth. I don’t see a sense of moving on. If anything, I’d say, “grab it with both hands,” jump all into this love because it’s REAL.

[Katrinia] Okay, that is confusing.

[Serenity Bly] But it could also be the potential for a establishing a greater partnership in business given that the original cards were both pentacles. In relation to this being more about a business partnership, I see it as a long standing friendship originally. It’s not someone new (or this would be a three, not a nine). It’s someone you’ve been friends with a long time. You have mutual respect and can develop a stronger relationship and union through work/business.

[Katrinia] Mindy.

[Jen.N] The title of the Nine of Cups for the Diamond Tarot is “Material Good Fortune,” so I think the business aspect of the reading is probably right.

[Katrinia] Please let it be Mindy, because I don’t know how to work the net to save my life.

[Serenity Bly] You’re in a good place right now, Kat. Things are going to continue to get better. You’ve come a long way. In a sense, your past week/s have been “making room” for new and better.

[Katrinia] Thank goodness!

[MoonlitKim] Do I get a turn tonight? I lost track.

[Miss Michelle] Yes, Kim.

[MoonlitKim] Okay, then I’ll ask about the outcome of my ‘latest’ new project – the creation of a tarot deck!

[Miss Michelle] Oooh! Fun!

[MoonlitKim] Yes. I have no clue how to go about publishing, but I’ve got two cards completed so far. Only 76 more!

[Miss Michelle] I’d venture to say you’re doing the right thing here.

[MoonlitKim] Okay, what do we get?

[Miss Michelle] Very right. Two of Pentacles, The World, Six of Swords.

[MoonlitKim] *happy dance*

[Miss Michelle] This will be your “Harry Potter” so to speak. The endeavor that gets you completely out of any financial difficulties and makes life “easy.” You’re going to find yourself struggling in the beginning. The deck will take longer to create than you’d hoped, especially as you’re pulled to other projects.

[MoonlitKim] Really? Harry Potter?

[Miss Michelle] As in the thing that will make you filthy rich. Yes. I know this almost sounds too good to be true, but I have to trust the cards.

[MoonlitKim] I do need to buy a boat with all them riches…

[Miss Michelle] That Two of Pentacles is a passing influence. It won’t stick around and it’s not like a “sheer exhaustion” card. It’s just “juggling too much for right now.” You’re going to work through it… get it done. And then by some amazing networking connection, find a publisher. One of those ‘right place, right time’ things.

[MoonlitKim] Yeah, I’ve got to keep finances rolling until I get it all done. Some days I’m just wiped out and can’t focus.

[Miss Michelle] Yes… But The World shows, once you cross that plateau it will get easier. And the Six of Swords is just smooth sailing away from trouble.

[MoonlitKim] I am! I will! He’ll make sure of that. It’s a lot of work already, and as I said I have no clue on publishing.

[Miss Michelle] Serenity Bly, anything to add because that’s “all” I’m getting from these cards.

[Serenity Bly] Nope, nothing really to add. You’ve given Kim the reassurance she needed.

[MoonlitKim] Big yay! And big thank you!

[Justine] I want to ask about my ex-bf. Just around December last year, we were trying to be friends again, but I cut him off when I learned that he is dating someone new. And just around last month he emailed one of my close friends and was asking about me. I guess I’m just curious how his doing and his new relationship.

[Serenity Bly] Ok, Justine, in the past the Three of Wands (reversed) makes me feel like your relationship with your ex never really got a good start. Things always seemed to come up that would kill the mood and it never felt “right” to be with him.

[Justine] True.

[Serenity Bly] I get a very “young” feeling, from you both as people and from the manner in which you both approach your friendships/relationships. It’s as if you’re both quite new to this and don’t know how to act with each other. The Two of Pentacles in the present shows that he wants to work on that with you. There are no cups here so I don’t think he’s looking for a romantic relationship with you, he wants a friend.

[Justine] Ok.

[Serenity Bly] And he’s willing to work at being your friend. He’s ready to take a more mature stance and approach your friendship with a more adult eye. Know that even friendship is hard work because of your past together. The Two of Swords in the future indicts a very strong potential for conflict. Because he isn’t looking for a romantic relationship with you, chances are he IS still going to be dating others. And your personal feelings might be in conflict with that. If you’re attached to the outcome of this relationship and you WANT to be romantically involved with him you may have trouble seeing him with other women. Especially if you allow yourself to become his shoulder to cry on when things aren’t going well with him which is what I really feels this card is about.

[Justine] Does it say anything about him being happy with the relationship that he has now with this other person?

[Serenity Bly] It’s possible he’s looking for you now because things are rocky with his current relationship and he “needs” a friend who understands and will listen and take his side.

[Justine] I seem to be that friend that he turns to starting from his divorce and a break up

[Serenity Bly] There is no sense here of the future outcome of his current relationship. But I get a very strong impression that he takes advantage of you. That’s not healthy.

[Justine] Then we dated and didn’t work out but it’s weird how he keeps coming back when I keep cutting him off because I can’t be a friend anymore.

[Serenity Bly] “Port in a storm.” To me the message that comes with those words is a very real sense of how young and immature he is. When things aren’t working the way he wants he’ll pull into any port in the storm. You deserve better than that, Justine.

[Justine] Yes, thank you, that’s why I searched for answer in different way rather than letting him in so he can pour out his problems.

[Serenity Bly] As a friend, you can be a friend, be his shoulder to cry on, but if you want more than friendship with him his interest in other women will tear down your self esteem.

[MoonlitKim] If he only comes around when things aren’t working out, it will bring you down with him. That’s not a healthy relationship, even as friends.

[Justine] He always says he is looking for a lasting love and I always felt bad for him when things aren’t working out for him.

[Serenity Bly] From what I see in the cards, Justine, he IS looking for love, but not with you. And he’s too young for any of his relationships to be “lasting” at this point.

[Justine] Do you think the cards that you drew for me says if he will be pushing his way back in my life as a friend in need or let me be?

[Serenity Bly] HE will push for friendship. You have to decide if you want to be only a friend. You get to choose if his wants influence yours. You might find it better for you to turn down his friendship and give up the idea of being with him.

[Justine] Ok. The question just popped in my head while reading through. Thank you.

Have you ever wondered which road to take in a yellow wood? In 1920, Robert Frost did. And, at a recent Tarot Chat (9.30pm EST every Wednesday), Jen is at a similar crossroads, torn between two passions and not sure which to pursue. Is it possible that two roads that seem to diverge are intertwined and constantly intersecting each other?

Let’s find out what the Tarot’s advice is for Jen, which road should she take?

[Serenity Bly] Ok, Jen, Kim, Deb, Teresa, who’s up next?

[Jen] Good question. Who is?   I *think* mine’ll be relatively quick…

[Serenity Bly] Lets do yours next then Jen.

[Jen] I’m wondering if teaching is a viable supplement to other things I have going on (writing, crafty-type things, etc.) and, if so, should I *really* put myself out there for it. (The 2nd go-round of the class I’m teaching through the public service dept of the local college started back up last night).

[Miss Michelle] Hmmm… We have the Page of Cups saying something very different than the narcissism it represented in Simone’s reading earlier. But that’s the second card… First, we have the Two of Pentacles, representing all you do have going on right now, and have had in the past. I’ve gotten to really LIKE the Two of Pentacles because, you know, he’s JUGGLING those balls… he’s DOING it. It’s nothing to fear. He’s excelling.

[Serenity Bly] If you’re getting a Page of Cups in the present he’s probably telling you to look at yourself, Jen. Examine what makes you happy, what do you love about yourself. Examine your motivations and your self-perceptions. Do YOU think you can do it? Do YOU want to?

[Miss Michelle] The Page of Cups, in this case, is telling us that you will like the attention of teaching too… Serenity, you interpreted the Page as I’m interpreting the third card, The Moon!!

[Jen] I don’t know about liking the attention of it, but I do like helping people grow in whatever they want to do — in this case, it’s writing.

[Miss Michelle] I think both the Moon and the Page are asking: Does teaching play to your strengths?

[Serenity Bly] I like your “enjoy the attention” aspect of the Page. I’ve always felt the Page was a little too self-absorbed to really feel the eyes of others on him. Which is a good thing in a public speaking / teaching arena. Because if you see only yourself you don’t get stage fright.

[Miss Michelle] Fulfillment might be a better word… But you’re LIKING being in a leadership role.

[Jen] Yeah. Oddly enough. I never thought I’d like doing anything like this until Toastmasters.

[Miss Michelle] Rather than fading into the background… that’s what I meant. Not like, “hurrah, hurrah,” but you’re ENJOYING people paying attention to what you have to say, caring about it.

[Jen] You’re right. I am.

[Serenity Bly] And yes, that’s it, fulfillment. You’ll feel enriched and rewarded knowing you’re helping others. Again, it’s in a serving self sense. You help others to feel better about yourself. Or rather the Page does. The Moon’s whispering to me that it MAY create a little conflict. A sense of split personalities.

[Miss Michelle] (And that’s a great thing!) YES! I feel like the Moon is telling us to watch out for the balance thing… what will GO if you pursue teaching?

[Jen] That’s a good question.

[Miss Michelle] And are you being honest with yourself about doing it all?

[Serenity Bly] You’ll have an extra hat to wear and you need to be careful to bring together all of these aspects of yourself, develop a unity from your strengths.

[Miss Michelle] Which also ties into the split personality thing…

[Serenity Bly] lmfao I love how MM and I both went in the same direction at the same time totally independent of each other. Our higher selves must be talking above our heads.

[Jen] I’m trying to be honest with myself about it. The reason for this is the director of the program asked if I wanted to be included in the spring schedule. I’m trying to decide.

[Miss Michelle] I drew a fourth card, because (before Serenity’s interpretation of the Moon) I had no where to go with it. And the card is the Wheel of Fortune.

[Simone] I love that card! I always have to say WHEEL…..OF…..FORTUNEEEEE….doo doo doo doo dododo doo doo do…

[Miss Michelle] I think that means… If you are MEANT to get it, you will, but if you’re not… Regardless of being *offered* the position, once you listen to the Universe, you will either get it or not, if you are meant to have it (or not.)

[Serenity Bly] *chuckles* That’s MM’s way of saying pay attention to signposts.

[Miss Michelle] (Yes, exactly!)

[Simone] The everything happens the way it’s supposed to whether you like it or not card.

[Miss Michelle] I also think if you keep your eyes open to signs… and possibly journal your concerns and thoughts about this reading… The Universe will TELL you the right course of action.

[MoonlitKim] It seems kind of systematic to me… like you are fitting into a school schedule. Or that everything will fall into place over time.

[Serenity Bly] If everything is leading you in this direction, follow.

[Miss Michelle] everything will…

[Jen] Being in the spring schedule will mean less writing gets done. But… I ultimately really do want to teach, preferably at a college level (hence I want/need an MFA eventually).

[Miss Michelle] I forget where I read/heard it, but when you are working WITH the will of the Universe, it is as if you are moving with the current. When you’re going against it… salmon upstream.

[Jen] Hmm…. There is actually a bit of both (against and with the current) going on here.

[Serenity Bly] Writing is an important part of teaching and your path as a writer may have been laying groundwork for your career as a teacher. If teaching is what you find most gratifying, rewarding, satisfying, follow that road. It doesn’t mean you have to let go of your writing, it means bring your writing hat under the management of your teaching hat, write as a teacher. Not teach as a writer.

[Jen] The class (this time and last) actually didn’t make (upstream), but the people in it both times were excited about it (with current). But that’s where the enjoyment of it comes from, I think, teaching as a writer. lol.

[Miss Michelle] Hmm… yeah… you need to look at teaching as a whole, not just that one experience I think. I think that’s part of the conflict… WHICH persona is stronger? THAT fits in w/ the wheel of fortune, too. Your teaching experience, overall, will turn around.

[Serenity Bly] Jen, I’m being prompted to pass on a message regarding your earlier “against the current” experience with teaching. The message is, “Just getting your feet wet.” Which I interpret to mean, the universe gave you a small group of motivated people who could inspire you to give you the initial thrill, the getting your feet wet experience. It didn’t want to throw you in the deep end. It’s giving you an opportunity to move deeper as you become more comfortable with the wet.

[Jen] OK. I get that. (This group seems more motivated than the last.)

[Miss Michelle] (I love how those messages from beyond so often come as cliches–for me too. LOL)

[Serenity Bly] It comes as a cliche because THEY need to give me something I can interpret. If it’s totally unique and never been used before I have no frame of reference to understand how it applies.

[Miss Michelle] OH!Serenity–that makes sense on the cliches. It always bugged me that my messages came that way–as if my subconscious were full of cliches.

[Jen] Hmm… So now (for some strange reason), I’m thinking along the possibility of “teaching” as in seminars and workshops rather than actual formal teaching with that. (These classes I’m doing are kind of a combination formal/seminar-ish.)

[MoonlitKim] Oooo that’s a good one to consider! And tends to be rather profitable as well.

[Miss Michelle] Jen, that is a GREAT idea!

[Serenity Bly] And teach online, so I can come to your classes.

[Jen] Heh. ANd that fits in with the creativity coaching better, too.

[Miss Michelle] Absolutely. And your whole… persona/business plan.

[Jen] Actually, Serenity, I’m getting an online class together basically as we speak, too.

[Miss Michelle] ooohhH!! Awesome!

[Jen] Miss Michelle, you’re right, it does.

[MoonlitKim] Oh! I think I got it! You were in this position to show you how much interest there is in lonely Oklahoma, so you’d realize how much more interest there would be online for seminars/coaching!   

[Jen] It’s this current group that’s pushing me towards that. Last night, I forgot a list of resources I intended to give them. So they say “Just put it on your website.” You know what? This has actually helped me quite a bit. I think I will be in the spring schedule, but not with any classes I’m teaching this go-round. (Unless popular demand comes along. Thinking creativity-centered.)

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~Transcript from 2010-01-14